About Forex
Submitted by insighty on Wed, 2006/02/22 - 10:36
Dear brothers and sisters,
assalamo alaykom wa rahmato allah,
I am so interested in forex exchange but unsure how to play it safe from islamic perpective. Could anyone summarize in practical terms how would I know if I am trading forex without violating Islamic law? and anyone knows any site or material that explains forex in simple terms,e.g: for people who never have done or studied business before.
jazakom allaho khayran.
fee aman allah,
Ghassan
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salaam
i have found Halaal islamic forex at www.tadawulfx.com see the info below
ISLAMIC TRADING CONDITIONS
It is generally accepted that foreign exchange trading is permissible under Islamic law. Tadawul FX offers Islamic Trading conditions that are specifically tailored to clients with Muslim beliefs and that abide by Sharia law.
Islamic trading accounts are given freely to Muslim clients through quick and simple online live account opening via our secure application form. Clients can choose one of the three types of trading accounts offered by TADAWUL FX: MINI, Standard or Premium and enjoy the same first-class trading conditions as non Muslim clients in full adherence with their religious beliefs. Traders can further optimize the account by selecting the leverage and volume of their preference.
Tadawul FX offers Islamic forex trading accounts that are SWAP free and clients do not get charged interest for holding overnight positions. TDFX does not charge clients any additional fees or commission, nor widens the spreads at any time as a means to compensate for offering interest free accounts. Instead Tadawul FX maintains that all clients trade under fair and ethical trading conditions.
The Islamic Accounts offered have been created to be compliant to Islamic religion, specifically Sharia Law. To make it easy to understand with a simple example, the Sharia Law that is taken into account for Islamic Accounts is to give or receive and not to expect anything in return. This is why TDFX provides Islamic Accounts with no additional charge, hidden cost and most importantly no interest fees (SWAP Free).
slamic Forex Accounts – Islamic Forex Trading with TDFX
Islamic forex accounts are a specific category of forex trading accounts also known as interest free or swap free forex accounts.
Islamic forex trading accounts permit clients of Islamic religion to trade on interest free accounts (SWAP free or Roll Over fee) with no extra charge or penalty for the ability to trade in adherence with Islamic religious principles. Clients can open and close positions at any time within the Tadawul FX Metatrader 4 system without being constrained to holding them for a defined period.
Some common Islamic forex trading account conditions include:
No Riba Policy:
Clients benefiting from the Tadawul FX No Riba policy may hold positions for an undetermined time at the original opening price until they are closed and no charges will occur. Tadawul FX may revoke the ‘No Riba’ policy in case of abuse with a 48 hour notice by email.
Musharaka or commonly called joint venture:
This refers to a partnership or joint venture for a specific business with a profit motive, whereby the distribution of profits will be apportioned according to an agreed ratio. In the event of losses, both parties will share the losses on the basis of the agreed ratio.
Hibah (Gift or Donation): The term ‘hibah’ refers to gifts awarded voluntarily in return for a loan given. Tadawul FX will select different organizations in order to enable investors to donate a percentage of their profits to them.
At Tadawul FX, we offer clients the possibility to choose Islamic Forex Trading conditions for any of our Forex account types including Mini, Standard or Premium accounts, regardless of base currency or leverage offered. Islamic trading accounts may also be used for Managed forex accounts, as the only determining factor is the religion of the client that the trading account belongs to. TDFX enables its clients to trade with no swap charges and with no other additional charges, spread or hidden fees, ‘simply fair and ethical trading conditions for all’.
The Islamic Accounts offered by Tadawul FX are not the same as the Islamic Accounts generally offered by other Forex companies. They differ based on the fact that TDFX offers SWAP free accounts with no other additional charges, whereas most other companies transfer this fee by widening the spread on Islamic Accounts. In order to abide by Islamic religious beliefs, one must not pay interest but if that interest charge is transferred to a different type of fee, it is basically still a charge to cover the interest. This is also referred to as a SWAP fee in disguise. Tadawul FX does not do this, again demonstrating that TDFX offers fair and ethical trading conditions.
they also offer 1;1 leverages on the islamic account
1st.World Islam know that
1st.World Islam know that Forex instrument , can be halal and can be haram.
Because of this instrument can be Halal, without Margin and leverage. Islam world should have provides the Halal Forex Instrument. And some broker intend to do that.
Muslim world should HAVE HALAL FOREX for each muslim country and after We have the Halal Forex, then we can talk about Halal and Haram in FOREX .
Why?.
Allah gave us something in two group of everything Halal and Haram.
eg. Such as Nikah and Zina.
But Allah always fair to people when Allah provide or create it first then Hukm will come after .
NOW our Muslim country or Caliph should provided it first , Halal Forex, then we can talk about HALAL HARAM.
If u talk about syubhat. Your money at your pocket always different time to time because, the measurement come from where it refers to.and u are the user. because of i can get the profit by my Knowledge, I will do that.
its Fitrah. Oil, Gold and the rest. My country money will no value, If it not refer to reference based money such as dollar.because the money always change every minutes.
Leverage Think about actual
Leverage
Think about actual leverage.Correct if I am wrong!
Some people tell that Leverage is borrowing money from IB. It is?
From my view. IB did not lend trader's money. Reason why?
1. Who want to lend money to you for loosing money? especially new comer and beginner. Is the broker simply lend you eg USD900 and they lost money without getting back from you?
From my view, One thing happen to my country is . Last time, when people wants to buy share 1 lot equivalent to USD 1000. But because of not many people can by the the shared with the exact cost, so our government reduce the share to smaller lot, then the lot changed,
1 lot share are equal to Usd 200. then more people can buy the Share.
From my view It happen to leverage. When people don't have enough money to buy the currency. The financial create a system to reduce for people to by the currency at lower rate.
That's why you can buy and sell currency in small changed.
How it works is ?
Why people can buy at cost USD 10. You still used your actual money the USD 10 not USD 100 by borrowing from broker from they said, That is system, The system let you buy more lot using they call it Micro account or mini account, which you cannot buy within your volume money.if change rate are bigger.So the system create with Usd 10 you can buy the lot.
2. Used of Margin
When people do Forex Business. They must take profit in term and condition. because they provide the facilities. So one of the term condition, To manage the Software and system, To pay electricity bill and worker. Then,They must charge trader for service and take profit in terms that we agreed. You used their system and you must pay for it.
Eg.When you use Software, For the process take part because buy using the software they charges you eg.2 pips. If you agree, you can use it, If not don't use, Are they Cheating you? So that is the term
If you say Haram because it related to Riba,then you can't be a tourist or going to Mekah to do hajj? why because Bank always charges the interest when you make money changer, because your country money not valid at Mekah.So you used Rial for the changed. Then you need to changed back. How long you use is? not 1 day , then the money you used more then a day, may be few day, then is it different if you say Forex can do change for a day only to make it Halal. Then how about the money you keep more a day when you at Mekah?
aspects other than leverage and interest in fx trading
Salam to all,
besides leverage and interset received and/or charged by the broker, there are other dimensions and aspects to consider. E.g. short-selling, the very concept of speculation, banks and central banks being primary market drivers and participants, etc.
here is a short piece that may highlight some of the above aspects. (from: http://www.albalagh.net/qa/Forex_currency_trading.shtml)
Forex Currency Trading
By Mufti Muhammad Taqi Usmani
Posted: 11 Zul Qa'Dah 1424, 22 November 2007
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Q.) Is Forex Currency Trading halal? I have attached a document detailing the aspects of the business.
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A.) I went throught the papers sent by you. I am of the opinion that these transactions are not compliant with Shariah. The very condition that you cannot take delivery of the purchased currency makes it impermissible. Morever, there are other elements according to my knowledge that makes this trade unlawful in Shariah, such as, forward sales, short sales etc. This is in addition to the fact that the currencies are originally a medium of exchange and should only be exchanged for personal use in different countries. To make them a tradable commodity only for earning a profit is also against the basic philosophy of Islamic economics. I would therefore not advise you to indulge in this trade.
Forex....... Mystery...
http://www.islamonline.net/discussione/thread.jspa?threadID=22804&tstart=0
Assalamualaikum wrb. Please
Assalamualaikum wrb.
Please take a look at the following website. I have tried my best to answer you.. But out of concern, if there is still any concerns regarding the Forex and its market, then kindly list it out at the forum with your subject head, Attn: Bhai.
Thank you.
http://monzer.kahf.com/fatawa/2006/FATAWA_2006_MONEY_EXCHANGE_AND_SARF.pdf
Salam, I m conducting a
Salam,
I m conducting a research about traders including islamic traders regarding their trading behavior, choice of brokerage etc.
It is a very short survey of about 20 question. It will take less than 5 min of your prescious time. Your help would me much appreciated!
Here is the link (please copy paste it)
http://FreeOnlineSurveys.com/rendersurvey.asp?sid=ryviidwr2zffk9h654255
thanks in advance
john
need fatwah
Assalam o alykum
Please can you send me the fatwa of forex trading were it states if its halal or haram.
my email is mrizwan007uk@yahoo.com
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Hi,
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Forex totally halal only with margin and leverage of 1:1
and broker with no swap or interest at all.
Any help with forex just add or email
forex-advisor@live.com
Forex totally Halal except if
Forex totally Halal except if there is swap on the broker.
do email/chat for any help at syaz268@hotmail.com
Forex Status in Islam. Does it haram?
Assalamualaikum,
I am Firdaus from Malaysia. I am very keen to know how the Forex status in Islam. Does is haram? Please let me know.
Proud To be Muslim!
Firdaus
arefier@hotmail.com
Require Fatwa about FX
Hi Sister/Brothers,
Can someone send me a fatwa from any Mutaqi person regarding FX is Halal or Haram so i after that i could start fx trading with various firm accross the world. My email id is as below:
aftab_ahmad99@hotmail.com
Forex Fatwa
Assalamu Alaikum Brothers,
I too need clarification about the fatwa's on forex trading. Please do send me details on this to riyasnizar@gmail.com.
Jazakallah,
Riyas
Forex
Salams,
I have done some investigation in to this. There are only two sound islamic forex providers I could find.
1. TADAWUL FX
2. ACM > but you will need to ask them to arrange an islamic account, based in dubai.
It takes care of all the issue(s) of leverage, riba etc.
WS
Adam
Halal Trading Platform
salaam
Let me get this right in basic terms, what do so called halal platforms such as AVAfx,TADAWUL and ACM offer that is different to a non halal platform.
Is it simply the interest charged on positions that have been left open after trading hours?
And what about the leverage, is it because essentially its a loan.
thanks for your time
Umar
Assalamualaikum.. Can anyone
Assalamualaikum..
Can anyone please email me the detail of fatwa research or the University Of Medina Article/Fatwa on currency exchange/trading about forex trading. i am doing forex trading and want to make sure it is within islamic limits.
My email address is: myemel4 (a) gmail.com
Salam
jek
Madine articles?
I would highly appreciate it if someone can send me these articles / madina fatwa and halal certificates to me, I am very keen but cannot find this anywhere
Jazakallah Kher
Rashad
About Forex
Aslam-u-Alykum, I need a solution of a problem. I wanna know about Forex trade ( or currency trade). I seen some forum on internet which say that Forex trading is haram.
As you know, according to my knowledge, business of share is allowed in Islam as it is based on profit and loss. So, the same thing is happening with forex trade which is based on profit and loss, and also its rates goes up and down depending on selling in international exchange market. So, we cannot compare it as some website say it a gambling trade and is called harm.
I will be very thankful if anybody answer me in right direction.
Salam, Can anybody email me
Salam,
Can anybody email me reserach on Islamic FX and the medina article please.
Jk
Ws
Azim
Plz send me article about forex trading is halal or haram
Asalam u Alikum
Dear Brothers,
i am practising DEMO from 2 years..now i am going to open a live acount to trade forex.
but i am confuse dat forex trading is halal or haram.
i asked from many peopls and molana,s about this matter..but nobody can give me satisfy answer..if anybody have any attentic article about forex trading is haram or halal plz send me on this ID
probability143@yahoo.com
i shall be very thankful to u people
Thx And regards
Dr Obaidullah article on Forex
Here is an article by Dr Obaidullah on Forex.
Is Forex Allowed in Islam???
Dear Brother & Sisters,
Aslam-o-alaikum,
This is a very old (and let me say a dead) topic now. Enough has already been said on it. Forex is allowed in Islam provided you do some safety measures. Fortunately, every forex broker is now offering Islamic Forex trading so this is no issue anymore.
Basically before jumping to conclusion; It's a matter of consideration that how well informed we are about forex?
For example, I have over 13 years of experience in forex. I think (rightly or wrongly) that I can answer all the questions in favour of Forex in Islam. However, I don't want to because I am not the authority.
Therefore, please check the URL for your expert analysis:
http://vlib.unitarklj1.edu.my/htm/islamforex.htm
With due respect, I have more points to say in favour of forex in Islam but anyway..
Allah Hafiz
Contact
Assalaumagalaikum Allah Hafiz!
Dear brother, as I see you trade on Forex. I do too. I would like to set contact with musis brother in Forx trading for mutual cooperation. Let's contact to share expertie and knowledge!
If you are interested please write to:
maxatkur@mail.ru or maxatkur83@yahoo.com
skype: magripa59
Best regards,
Maxat
Hi, I am new to FOREX
Hi,
I am new to FOREX trading. I am due to take a course in a few weeks and was wondering if you had any tips that could help me minimise any losses and be more successful.
I intend to trade FOREX to generate a second income and would appreciate as much information as possible for a total beginner.
I also appreciate you must have more important engagements but would really appreciate some advice.
By advice I mean general advice on FOREX trading not the halalness or haramness of it.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Islamic Forex trading institutions/Banks
Salaamu alaikum All!!
I have being looking at forex trading recently and have the same conclusion that FOREX should be Halal under certain circumstances. What those are? I am still researching.
IF ANYONE can direct me to an islamic trading facility for forex - i would be very much appreciated and my dua's are with you. A good article on the forex practises from a sharia point of view would be very good also.
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I do feel however that we need to approach this topic somewhat in the same way that we appraoch Halal meat. (what did I say????) Yes, absolutely. How far do we go to check? Do we need to know the mother of the cow we eat? Or the farmer and determine him for honesty? Expose the intestinal tract and examine it's contents to understand what the animal was eating? Was it vegetation only? The answer is NO. What we do have to invlove ourselves with is finding out FOR OURSELVES by speaking to those we trust in knowledge matters.
Allaah subhaana wa ta'ala is taking care of our risq. If he is in protection of it, i need not worry. Who better to protect it that the lord of the world's?
If we knew that the probability of loosing our money once invested was 50% - would we do it? NO! Of course not. This would be too much of an investment gamble.
Similarly, if it is a 50/50 chance of something being HARAM should we do it? NO! But how many of us GAMBLE our eeman away? But, we would NEVER gamble our money with such odds on an investment. Point in case.
If it is POSSIBLE that the current FOREX methods involves interest for example then by that token it is POSSIBLE that we are delcaring WAR on ALLAAH and his MESSENGER. Am i being unreasonable? Who is confident of there chances?
Let us MAKE SURE and be REWARDED with good insha ALlaah. AFter all, it's not what happens in this life that counts but the OUTCOME of the next.
Fatwa about Forex Trading
hi,
can you please email me the detail of fatwa research or the University Of Medina Article/Fatwa on currency exchange/trading about forex trading. i am doing forex trading and want to make sure it is within islamic limits.
My email address is: walid_kassar@hotmail.com
Best Regards,
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FOREX TRADING
ASA
Can someone please email me the forex fatwa from university of madina to my email address, kash_crawley@hotmail.com
thanks
kash
clarification on the islamic stand on forex
Salam alayk. Pls i want to fully clarify whether forex trading is halal in islam or not. I once traded real with 150 dollars and lost all but 2 dollars. thanks.
Want to know more
Assalam Oalikum to All !!!))
I just find the new muslim friend around the World
I also interested in Islamic Finance and develop the Halal industry in Kazakhstan
Barak Allahu Fihkya
I am from Kazakhstan too. My
I am from Kazakhstan too. My e-mail is maxatkur@mail.ru.
Maxat
UNIVERSITY OF MEDINA ARTICLE
If you have a copy of the FATWA from the university of Medina, Could you pease send it to me at mis019@gmail.com
Request for University of Medina submission of FOREX
Assalam alaekum,
Please forward the submission of the University of Medina on FOREX trading to me. I am planning to go live and I before I do that, I would like to know its implication from islamic view point.
Therefore, I would appreciate it if the submission of the University of Medina is forwarded to me. My email is:tolokesusi@yahoo.co.uk.
Thank you.
Ramadhan Kareem and id-moubarak
Ma'salama
A.B. Lawal
Lagos, Nigeria
I'm Postgraduate Student at
I'm Postgraduate Student at the Kulliyyah of Law International Islamic University, Malaysia. I need to read and digest the reply for my research purpose.
Ma Salaam.
Are you really trade ? Think again..........
Salam to all muslim friends,
Most ulama making statement with believe that 'traders' really 'trade' in forex currency market. To make matter worst forex is traded without exchange.
I wish to highlight to all muslim 'traders' out there about bucket shop. Bucket shop being around for almost 100 years. Most ulama does not aware about bucket shop. Bucket shop nowadays are called 'market maker'. Your position are not executed and never the leave the hard disk of your broker PC. Your position is not entering the forex market and what do we call that ?? That is not a trade; that is GAMBLING.
Forex is 'institutional'. To learn more about forex broker and structure go to this link
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=7484
The article is very long but try to read the thread thoroughly and you would know small amount of money never make it's way into forex market. So leverage and free swap is just another hoax.
Answer to Question regarding Leverage
First, pls take note that Rasulullah had reminded us when a trade occurs btwn 2 men, the buyer must pay in full to the seller without any hedging whatsoever. The buyer may buy it on credit terms, but not on hedging terms. This is to avoid unjust trading.Let me give u an example. You see, a man cant simply buy an item thats worth USD100 with only having to pay USD1 for it. It would be unjust to the seller. By that, can u see that u are leveraging your USD1 by 1:100?
Some ppl would say, leverage is just like a loan. Broker gives us an interest free loan to do trading. As tempting as it may sound, PLEASE TAKE NOTE THAT LEVERAGE IS NOT A LOAN. A BROKER SIMPLY LEVERAGE YOUR MONEY WITHOUT THEMSELVES HAVING ANY MONEY AT ALL TO BACK UP YOUR MONEY.
WHAT MAKES YOU THINK, WHEN YOU PUT USD10 INTO YOUR BROKER’S ACCOUNT, THEY WOULD LEND YOU ANOTHER USD9,990 INTEREST FREE SO THAT YOU COULD BUY THE USD10,000 CONTRACT? I KNOW THAT IS THE MINIMUM CONTRACT AVAILABLE FOR 0.1 LOT.
If a trade is unjust to any party involved in a trading, Islam will reject it bcoz Islam is all about justice. Having said that, in order to make a forex trading Halal, you must have a swap-free(overnight charge) condition and YOU MUST NOT USE LEVERAGE AT ALL to avoid the unjust trading.
Sometimes my brothers sisters, you do not need a scholar to clarify on everything. You do not have to have ask clarification on justice from Scholars of University of Medina. We could judge by ourselves wether its wrong or not.
WE CAN ONLY USE 1:1 LEVERAGE TRADING CONDITION. AND TAKE NOTE THAT LEVERAGE IS NOT A LOAN. The broker would simply leverage your money without them having any money at all to back it up. THIS IS NOT PERMISSIBLE IN ISLAM. When you have this 2 trading conditions, your account will be halal and any money you profit from it will be halal InshaAllah.
Forex haram or halal?
I anyone has any information regarding this (i.e. legitimate fatwas) as well as opening a halal trading account please email me.
Jazakallah Khair
Feroz Ashraf
ARTICLE FROM Madina Universitgy
Can anyone send me the article as well. Please.
maxim capitals
assalam alaikum ,
DEAR BROTHER
i would like to know whether investing in maxim capitals
is halaal, are they offering real profit or interest? on our investment ,please reply as i am confused in this regard ,and i am really looking forward in investing in maxim capitals,please reply
thanks & regards
Ajaz.attar
halal or not
Forex is allowed under certain conditions in shariah-
Amongst them there should not be interest paid or taken at roll over { email me i will explain}
But everyone please BEWARE I do trade in forex markets and i have to warn
IT is the riskiest market anywhere. 90 percent fail and lose all their money
and believe that will be you.
The forex brokers are very smart and out to make money.
You can open accounts with a hundred dollars us { what is called a mini account}
My fatwa research is from a famous scholar I study with and also Mufti Taqi Usmani
It is allowed with certain criterian.
is forex halal?
Assalamu alaikum,
i would like to know if forex trading is allowed in Islam or not.
kindly mail me the relevant details for my clarification.
Thanks & Regards
Shaik.
Assalaumagalaikum! Dear
Assalaumagalaikum!
Dear brother, as I see you trade on Forex. I do too. I would like to set contact with musis brother in Forx trading for mutual cooperation. Let's contact to share expertie and knowledge!
If you are interested please write to:
maxatkur@mail.ru or maxatkur83@yahoo.com
skype: magripa59
Best regards,
Maxat
Salam, i am a FX trader, i
Salam,
i am a FX trader, i was wondering if you could send me your reserach on islamic FX.
Ws
Azim
hi dear
Dear i want some clarification about forex trading..and what is the fatwa of Mufti Taqi usmani..can u plzz send me dat fatwa
my E mail ID is probability143@yahoo.com
i shall be v thankful to uu
Forex criteria
Salaam aleikum,
I heard about forex and autopilot trading with a software, and got interested. But i wasn't sure if it was allowed or not. could you please tell me the criteria you learned from the Mufti Taqi Usmani.
Thanks allot.
Forex Halal or Haram
Please can you refer me to a site where i can study this area further to determine what the criteria is in order to trade with Forex?
Jazaakallah
Need to know the conditions
Hi,
Like to know your knowledge on Forex Trading in Islamic way.
What are the certain criterian?
Regards,
Faisal
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