Fri, 2010/01/29 - 09:53 by ijam007

In this forum, is to discuss who can give and gets loan from any party, or individual or bank. Too many to disguise the loan that the borrower may be dangerous. Many Muslims use the name to gain sympathy. Muslims who have been helping wealthy people who have no capital to start a business. Most investors have a good idea to create a project, but the problem of capital.
In addition to this forum to ensure that new scammer known quickly.

[Moved to investment scams by site moderator]

Investment Scams

Comments

alentejano77

Fri, 2010/01/29 - 14:59

Very good forum
since i made my post here on this site, i already received more then 10 scams attempts.
I already erased most of them, bur will check and if possible will put their names here.
is that ok?

Muslim Investor

Fri, 2010/01/29 - 20:30

By all means, please do post the entire email of the scam, so others are aware of it.

But post it in the correct place which is the Investment scams forum.

Vipin (not verified)

Mon, 2010/02/01 - 04:57

Hi

I have also been approached by many scammers offering me loan for my new business project here in India.

However at the end all of them have ended up asking me to send them money which is a fees for transfering the funds into my account, to which I have always objected.

Hence if anyone comes across any genuine elnder who can offer me a loan or would invest in my restaurant project here in India, without asking for any advance money, please do let me know.

My e-mail id is vipinkumar303@gmail.com

Regards
Vipin

ijam007

Sat, 2010/01/30 - 12:25

I indeed have a proposal and indeed I wanted my project is running well, but I receive many many emails to invest but I do not know it was the investor or penipu.Mereka wanted copies, permanent address,
Among them I get from
1.Jeraisy Group Company, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
2.Philip Twite
3.Saadgroup
4.Pual anthony

My headache .. all kinds of real, have provided letters of agreement, because the name is the name above a large company. Please help me be a friend.

alentejano77

Sun, 2010/01/31 - 05:13

Hello ijam007

The others i don't know, but Philip Twite is a scam for sure.
One very simple way to find scamers is by their phone number.
Ask them their number, and if is a number from U.K. starting with +4470, it is almost guaranteed to be a scam. Usually the presence of a +44 70 number in a 419 scam email means you're dealing with criminals based in Nigeria. Do not reply to such emails!

The scammer most likely is NOT based in the UK. +44 70 numbers belong to international call forwarding services. These services make it possible for scammers to hide the fact that they are based in Nigeria or other countries in Africa, while the scam victim will believe they're dealing with someone in the UK. Very few if any legitimate individuals use these numbers. Banks, law offices, immigration officials, etc. never use +44 70 numbers. We have not come across any legitimate UK businesses yet that use +44 70 numbers. There only visible user base are scammers in Nigeria and elsewhere. It is a perfect mystery why the UK authorities allow these services to continue operating.

UK phone numbers starting with '70' are "Personal numbering" in the "Find me anywhere" range. Charges for calls to these numbers are not distance-dependent. They can cost as much as UKL 0.50 (USD 0.90) per minute to call and can forward the call to virtually any phone number in the world. Forwarding numbers can be set up for free and completely anonymously via websites such as uknumbers.com.

In most cases when you call one of these numbers the phone that starts ringing will actually be a mobile phone somewhere in Nigeria, as the UK number has been programmed to auto-forward calls to another number. These +44 70xx numbers are used as a redirector service to obscure the fact that the person taking the call is not actually based in Europe. The UK number is used to lend credibility to the scam. Unfortunately the authorities in the UK do not seem to be taking action to shut down such phone numbers.

If you need any more help, just ask. Since i'm not always on the forum, here is my personal email: stopscams@sapo.pt (the time of response will be shorter)i just created this email to be more easier for me to know what is the subject of the received emails.
I'm tired of this f**** guys trying to stell our money, when we are just tryng to do a honest business.
I'm doing business on the net for some years, and i had to register myself in some "antiscams" sites, most of them payed.
I'm not asking any money in return, the only thing i ask is that if you now somebody with the same problem, just send him this mesage, or my email. Please, if you have any question concerning the authenticy of a business, and you think i can help, just send an email, you will have nothing to losse.

My best regards

cemercin (not verified)

Sat, 2010/03/13 - 13:26

After I had wrote here asking for financing, I received lots of spam emails but not a serious one.

Although those spam mails are illegal they dare that.

Of course I beleive the directors of this website aren't responsible for that and it is too hard for them to tell those spam PEOPLE apart from us.

Kind regards

rdegouveia

Sun, 2010/12/12 - 10:15

I went along with them until they asked for money $10,000 US. They are a scam.
Also to add to your list Majid Al-Futtaim

Ishak Ismail (not verified)

Sun, 2010/01/31 - 19:33

I have been approached by so many Investors as well, From Saudi - SAGIA Group, Several Claiming to be from UK and others from unknown source. Most of them emailed me, and says they got the details of my Business Proposal from Muslim-Investor.com. and for a few, I adhered to what is required, until they want money . Normally its USD15k, or GBP15K for some Customs Clearance or some form of released fees. The scammers are more advanced now, they have photocopies of passport or documents that they scanned and emailed to me which they want to make it more believeable. The initial email, says no fees or any payment, until the end, and when the 'MONEY' is claimed to be delivered and that is the Final part, that they will ask for money. It is said that Muslim-Investor.com site is used as a tool to scam, us legitimate business people. Something have to be done, or else, this site will lost its credibility.

genie21

Thu, 2010/03/25 - 11:37

from Ahmad Alialsayegh

Sir,

I have gone through your request on the sponsorship request you have made.
Having gone through the mail I will like to assist you on this project but before I can proceed I will like to know you.

Please send me the details of the project, then after I have studied your project proposal I will check if I can sponsor the project or not upon approval I will send to you the agreement which you need to sign then I will let you on the process to receive the money and the period of repayment.

However, I will like you to send me the following:
(1) A photocopy of your international passport or Identity Card or Driver's licence for identification
(2) The proposed drawing or sketch of the project(Project Description)
(3) Your telephone number which I can reach you in case I will like to speak with you personally.

Regards
Ahmad Ali Al Sayegh

-----------------------------

This man does not even understand my investment proposal and is just sending random emails.

I would stay away from this person. Has the nerve of asking for my passport. I have not even met him

chilli

Fri, 2010/03/26 - 04:59

hello geni21,
i recieved the same mail from this guy and also phone number, it was malaysian. i found it as a phone number for some river cruises ...

but whats wrong this guy play the role of the chairman of successful emirate company aldar.com (he uses his name, phone number, website ...). this i count very bad and i wrote to aldar to inform them.
have a nice day.

BTW I DO NOT THINK THERE IS SERIOUS INVESTOR IN THIS WEBSITE...

Visitor (not verified)

Wed, 2010/04/07 - 00:46

Casb Will(Another fraud beware)

Here is the business revolving agreement for you to complete and sign and return to me with all the necessary document secured.
Gary with number as
+447045711428

kaponiii (not verified)

Mon, 2010/04/12 - 17:14

i recived mail from ¨ALRAJHI HOLDING COMPANY (AHC) SAUDI ARABIA¨ and this mail sent from alrajhiholding.net.. there isnt any office phone numb or fax numb or mobiile num,just name and company name. plz if anyone recived same or know if its scam tell me
thank u

Visitor (not verified)

Mon, 2010/10/11 - 06:09

Yes, I too received offer from this person.
He first sent offer from sulimanalrajhi@alrajhiholding.net. Later he referred me to Prof. Khalid in London giving two UK mobile nos. and a MOU to sign to be followed by meeting in London or Dubai immediately.

He offered an amount many times more than what I required for my project and in just few days !!! This gave me a doubt.

alrajhiholding.net is not online/ non-existing.
alrajhiholding.com belongs to a Saudi company.

Anyway, entrepreneurs need to be vigilant and check/ conduct due-diligence at very step.

galib20

Sun, 2010/04/25 - 19:45

I received the following:
1. Assalamalekum,
I am HM. Prince Suliman Alrajhi Talal, chairman and founder of the
ALRAJHI HOLDING COMPANY (AHC) SAUDI ARABIA.
I want to investigate the possibility and preferential
Conditions/gains of investing some of my available funds
into your company/projects as a foreign company.
I will be interested to invest and partner in a business in line
with my company's mission statement for expansion in
virtually all profitable business with assurance that the
security of my funds will be there with ROI of at
least 10% per annum.
Depending on your business plan, proposals and professionalism I can
invest as much as any required funds for a start.
May Allah bless you.
HM. Prince Suliman Alrajhi Talal

SHAHIN AZAD (not verified)

Sun, 2010/05/23 - 05:47

Hi, Mr Joseph Valencia
How are you? I am very pleased to know about you.
I have *Dairy Farm* business plane. In fact i have been working on this
project since last 4/5 years.
My country is Bangladesh, small country of South-Asia.
I know my plan is very much prospective. But I need fund to start the
project. Only $100,000.00.
If you really want to help me in funding please please come forward. My
dreams will come true.

Visitor (not verified)

Mon, 2010/04/26 - 11:06

This is a big scam using LKS Foundation, Stuart Gulliver(HSBC Bank) as lures to get $$ for terriorist certificates and money laundering certificates-both are non-existant
johnbsafe@hotmail.com

Terrence (not verified)

Fri, 2010/04/30 - 06:32

I have recieved emails from Robert Fordham Ventures stating his intentions to invest $500,000 in our startup. I have gone along with him thus far - more out of curiosity then anything else. There are many red flags with what he says and does. Nigerian accent - skype phone, address in Netherlands, his term sheet was very vague - no real exit strategy...
Could some one tell me what is in it for him with this scam?
Thanks!

Charles (not verified)

Thu, 2010/05/20 - 10:37

Beware of Philip Charles Twite who is trying to scam people into believing that he have money to invest an he is an investor he also try to launder money through the bank of america. his address he gave is 56-57 goodwin road Kings lynn, Norfolk, PE 30 60X. and 67 Queen stree, Kings Lynn, PE 30 1JT Passport number 305128106. beware of this guy dont get fooled into making upfront payments to this guy you can loose your money.

vishwanath (not verified)

Sat, 2010/08/21 - 02:36

yes, i too have received mails from this person claming that i will invest in your country, for a project,
so please do not respond to this person .

younis

Sun, 2011/01/30 - 23:26

aslam o alikum to all im here new user kindly guide me about this website and sender is it all realy and serious guys really want help to others or just surfing.............and exploring.
Thank you

Visitor (not verified)

Tue, 2010/08/17 - 15:44

Galvin Loan Firm or Mr. Galvin Roberts is a Scammer!!!
He pretends to be from UK, but is in reality in Nigeria (got Nigerian accent). If you deny paying, he makes some guy, who is an "agent" from Scotland Yard who should asure that working with Galvin Loan Firm is save.

his email: galvinloan@mail.mn

Big, big scammer!!!

Regards

Arian (not verified)

Sun, 2010/09/26 - 01:33

Did any body dealt with these people?

Mutual Security and Guarantee Trust

Looks like long history they have...but i dono whether they are real..
they say loan could be securitized by prommissory notes, at a cost of 15K USD...
If anyone have good experience pls let me know,

Thanks
Arian

aaron (not verified)

Fri, 2010/10/08 - 01:05

Please could you advise about the person that have done the proposal? and also the country concerning ?

Arian Zakeer (not verified)

Wed, 2010/10/13 - 17:29

Hi

I am the cousin brother of Mr. AH, MD of GS a leading group in dubai.

It seems he applied for a loan with your trust through an agent who knows only your email id...nothing else.

And forwarded 15000 USD to your lawyer based in philipines to securitize Pnote.

Since abdul asked me to find out the legitimacy i thought of enquiring the forum.

I enquired even now from Abdul, he said the deal has not been closed and neither the upfront returned to him...

Reply me at
Arian Zakeer naira
arian_amn@yahoo.com

aaron (not verified)

Thu, 2010/10/14 - 00:14

I have the same experience but I cannot yet understand if it's a scam. I try find out the lawyer as to ask him about the fees...

Arian Zakeer (not verified)

Thu, 2010/10/14 - 08:02

Did you reached the lawyer?

It seems the lawyer is also fake, with no direct numbers or existence.

Beggers/cheaters roam in the name of funders.

Post me if they are true and genuine., so that i can change my opinion.

Arian Zakeer Naira

Visitor (not verified)

Sun, 2010/11/28 - 15:02

Hello ijam007

The others i don't know, but Philip Twite is a scam for sure.
One very simple way to find scamers is by their phone number.
Ask them their number, and if is a number from U.K. starting with +4470, it is almost guaranteed to be a scam. Usually the presence of a +44 70 number in a 419 scam email means you're dealing with criminals based in Nigeria. Do not reply to such emails!

The scammer most likely is NOT based in the UK. +44 70 numbers belong to international call forwarding services. These services make it possible for scammers to hide the fact that they are based in Nigeria or other countries in Africa, while the scam victim will believe they're dealing with someone in the UK. Very few if any legitimate individuals use these numbers. Banks, law offices, immigration officials, etc. never use +44 70 numbers. We have not come across any legitimate UK businesses yet that use +44 70 numbers. There only visible user base are scammers in Nigeria and elsewhere. It is a perfect mystery why the UK authorities allow these services to continue operating.

UK phone numbers starting with '70' are "Personal numbering" in the "Find me anywhere" range. Charges for calls to these numbers are not distance-dependent. They can cost as much as UKL 0.50 (USD 0.90) per minute to call and can forward the call to virtually any phone number in the world. Forwarding numbers can be set up for free and completely anonymously via websites such as uknumbers.com.

In most cases when you call one of these numbers the phone that starts ringing will actually be a mobile phone somewhere in Nigeria, as the UK number has been programmed to auto-forward calls to another number. These +44 70xx numbers are used as a redirector service to obscure the fact that the person taking the call is not actually based in Europe. The UK number is used to lend credibility to the scam. Unfortunately the authorities in the UK do not seem to be taking action to shut down such phone numbers.

If you need any more help, just ask. Since i'm not always on the forum, here is my personal email: stopscams@sapo.pt (the time of response will be shorter)i just created this email to be more easier for me to know what is the subject of the received emails.
I'm tired of this f**** guys trying to stell our money, when we are just tryng to do a honest business.
I'm doing business on the net for some years, and i had to register myself in some "antiscams" sites, most of them payed.
I'm not asking any money in return, the only thing i ask is that if you now somebody with the same problem, just send him this mesage, or my email. Please, if you have any question concerning the authenticy of a business, and you think i can help, just send an email, you will have nothing to losse.

My best regards

Project (not verified)

Tue, 2010/12/14 - 04:29

I am currently negotiating with MSGT and Nicholas Burgoyne for a loan. Same process - we send his lawyer in philippines money to securitize the P notes. Then within 5-7 days we are suppose to get our funds for our project.

So far, I have not been able to verify anything. They just send some old documents to prove that they are legitimate.

Any idea before I send this lawyer money?

C63 (not verified)

Wed, 2010/12/15 - 20:59

Please stop with all the talk about MSGT!!!!...Nick and his little side kick cant fund a "parking meter" let alone any project!...They are Scammers and Cons period.That is a fact...The attorney is real however she needs to lose her license and go to Jail!!!!..I am already helping 1 person on this board with them and he can pass that info onto you.I repeat these guys can not fund anything!!!!...Whoever said "Nick" was in the US may be right.

aaron (not verified)

Fri, 2010/12/17 - 07:23

Sorry, but I don't believe that Nicholas Burgoyne is a scammer. Your comments dear C63 have not some proofs.
Please give your proofs so I can change opinion for this person.

C63 (not verified)

Fri, 2010/12/17 - 10:24

Sir, i will be glad to give you all the proof you want.Please leave me your name and contact info including your email address and i will be glad to give that confirmation of info.THESE GUYS CANT FUND ANYTHING!!

Furthermore please ask the forum member Arian as he has proof as well.MSGT has been running around using a reference of closing in aug. 2010 for his brothers company when this never happened and you can confirm that with Arian as he has the proof.

Also Sir you have offered zero proof that they ever funded anything including your own project?????...waiting????..You most likely are Nick or Paul or some imposter.

Only thing that is true with these guys is the Attorney and while real i think they have a plant/imposter acting as the attorney.

Real funders dont have there phone lines discounted and change there email address every few months!!

visitor (not verified)

Fri, 2010/12/17 - 15:31

Dear friend ,

I don't like any proof from your side.Maybe you have decided to make a transaction with MSGT. Ok I respect your decision and maybe you have paid a small amount to receive a loan , I suppose the loan amount will be much million Dollars or Euro. I have done the same as you or Arian , I have paid a small amount for loan of much million dollars. It's your decision and my decision. At the time I had the proposal to get the loan I had not any push of anyone from the MSGT side; it was my proper decision on the basis that the persons of MSGT were not scammers. I had only a contact with Nickolas Burgoyne and I have been convinced he is not a scammer. If he did not give the loans and we wait until now, that is not reason to saying he is scammer. Find yourself the reason of the delay.... that will be the better way to finding the true.... In my country with long tradition and very important culture ( old and modern) the people say "don't say big parole". So let the mail , telephone numbers etc and think what is happening and you cannot have your loan!!!!! Finally this discussion on the forum don't give solution in the funding of our projects... And for the history I am not Nick or Paul (who is this ?), I am not also the Lawyer of Nick!!! Simply I am a person who tries find funding for his project that is a dream from me. that's all...
Best Wishes

C63 (not verified)

Fri, 2010/12/17 - 23:55

MSGT is very much a fake and con men period!.Fact not Fiction.

Nick's Time will come if thats even his name.

Funny thing is your the one guy that says they fund and everyone else says there scum bags!!!..Odd dont you think?!

My point was made so no need to respond.

Visitor (not verified)

Sat, 2010/12/18 - 04:30

I am with you , they have much money for project financing but they don't like get......

C63 (not verified)

Sat, 2010/12/18 - 09:53

I am trying to help people on this board and one of my clients got taken for a short ride by these guys!!!..fact!!

In turn they took Arian's brother company for a ride..Fact!!

You on the other hand are taking up for them (MSGT) you cant prove they
funded shit including your own project!!!

You are either a plant or delusional!!!

Get real..these guys are are hacks!!

Please leave me alone as well.

vistor (not verified)

Fri, 2011/01/21 - 09:30

C63 , I guess you have lost your commission ... let know in this forum the proof that Burgoyne is an imposter .. we are awaiting the proof...

Visitor (not verified)

Sat, 2010/12/18 - 04:26

This guy never was in USA. Get me your mail to be advised about his real residential address.

C63 (not verified)

Sat, 2010/12/18 - 09:46

Lets find out who you are 1st???...I think its safe for you to give out his location (hide out) on this board????

It will come out very soon anyway??

whats the scoop?

C63 (not verified)

Sun, 2010/12/19 - 09:44

Give it up as for his location???...Nobody knows who you are here on this board so you cant get in any trouble???

It would be helpful??

C63 (not verified)

Sun, 2010/12/19 - 16:27

i highly doubt anyone is going to track you down from this board..lol
if thats a issue then i will send a email but who are you and whats your relation to this whole MSGT situation??

thanks

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